Sunday, February 14, 2010

The Jews - Robert G Ingersoll - 1889



Robert G Ingersoll was without doubt the greatest American Orator ever, and an intellectual giant of the first order. He memorised his breathtaking and iconoclastic speeches and delivered them to crowds of thousands. This was long before television and radio were invented. In the late 19th century live music, plays and yes, oratory, were entertainment. If you ever have a few spare hours and are of a freethinking disposition, please visit the Internet infidels for his complete works.



WHEN I was a child, I was taught that the Jews were an exceedingly hard-hearted and cruel people, and that they were so destitute of the finer feelings that they had a little while before that time crucified the only perfect man who had appeared upon the earth; that this perfect man was also perfect God, and that the Jews had really stained their hands with the blood of the Infinite.

When I got somewhat older, I found that nearly all people had been guilty of substantially the same crime -- that is, that they had destroyed the progressive and the thoughtful; that religionists had in all ages been cruel; that the chief priests of all people had incited the mob, to the end that heretics -- that is to say, philosophers -- that is to say, men who knew that the chief priests were hypocrites -- might be destroyed.

I also found that Christians had committed more of these crimes than all other religionists put together.

I also became acquainted with a large number of Jewish people, and I found them like other people, except that, as a rule, they were more industrious, more temperate, had fewer vagrants among them, no beggars, very few criminals; and in addition to all this, I found that they were intelligent, kind to their wives and children, and that, as a rule, they kept their contracts and paid their debts.

The prejudice was created almost entirely by religious, or rather irreligious, instruction. All children in Christian countries are taught that all the Jews are to be eternally damned who die in the faith of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, that it is not enough to believe in the inspiration of the Old Testament -- not enough to obey the Ten Commandments -- not enough to believe the miracles performed in the days of the prophets, but that every Jew must accept the New Testament and must be a believer in Christianity -- that is to say, he must be regenerated -- or he will simply be eternal kindling wood.

The church has taught, and still teaches, that every Jew is an outcast; that he is to-day busily fulfilling prophecy; that he is a wandering witness in favor of "the glad tidings of great joy;" that Jehovah is seeing to it that the Jews shall not exist as a nation -- that they shall have no abiding place, but that they shall remain scattered, to the end that the inspiration of the Bible may be substantiated.

Dr. John Hall of this city, a few years ago, when the Jewish people were being persecuted in Russia, took the ground that it was all fulfillment of prophecy, and that whenever a Jewish maiden was stabbed to death, God put a tongue in every wound for the purpose of declaring the truth of the Old Testament.

Just as long as Christians take these positions, of course they will do what they can to assist in the fulfillment of what they call prophecy, and they will do their utmost to keep the Jewish people in a state of exile, and then point to that fact as one of the corner-stones of Christianity.

My opinion is that in the early days of Christianity all sensible Jews were witnesses against the faith, and in this way excited the hostility of the orthodox. Every sensible Jew knew that no miracles had been performed in Jerusalem. They all knew that the sun had not been darkened, that the graves had not given up their dead, that the veil of the temple had not been rent in twain -- and they told what they knew. They were then denounced as the most infamous of human beings, and this hatred has pursued them from that day to this.

There is no other chapter in history so infamous, so bloody, so cruel, so relentless, as the chapter in which is told the manner in which Christians -- those who love their enemies -- have treated the Jewish people. This story is enough to bring the blush of shame to the cheek, and the words of indignation to the lips of every honest man.

Nothing can be more unjust than to generalize about nationalities, and to speak of a race as worthless or vicious, simply because you have met an individual who treated you unjustly. There are good people and bad people in all races, and the individual is not responsible for the crimes of the nation, or the nation responsible for the actions of the few. Good men and honest men are found in every faith, and they are not honest or dishonest because they are Jews or Gentiles, but for entirely different reasons.

Some of the best people I have ever known are Jews, and some of the worst people I have known are Christians. The Christians were not bad simply because they were Christians, neither were the Jews good because they were Jews. A man is far above these badges of faith and race. Good Jews are precisely the same as good Christians, and bad Christians are wonderfully like bad Jews.

Personally, I have either no prejudices about religion, or I have equal prejudice against all religions. The consequence is that I judge of people not by their creeds, not by their rites, not by their mummeries, but by their actions.

In the first place, at the bottom of this prejudice lies the coiled serpent of superstition. In other words, it is a religious question. It seems impossible for the people of one religion to like the people believing in another religion. They have different gods, different heavens, and a great variety of hells. For the followers of one god to treat the followers of another god decently is a kind of treason. In order to be really true to his god, each follower must not only hate all other gods, but the followers of all other gods.

The Jewish people should outgrow their own superstitions. It is time for them to throw away the idea of inspiration. The intelligent Jew of to-day knows that the Old Testament was written by barbarians, and he knows that the rites and ceremonies are simply absurd. He knows that no intelligent man should care anything about Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, three dead barbarians. In other words, the Jewish people should leave their superstition and rely on science and philosophy.

The Christian should do the same. He, by this time, should know that his religion is a mistake, that his creed has no foundation in the eternal verities. The Christian certainly should give up the hopeless task of converting the Jewish people, and the Jews should give up the useless task of converting the Christians. There is no propriety in swapping superstitions -- neither party can afford to give any boot.

When the Christian throws away his cruel and heartless superstitions, and when the Jew throws away his, then they can meet as man to man.

In the meantime, the world will go on in its blundering way, and I shall know and feel that everybody does as he must, and that the Christian, to the extent that he is prejudiced, is prejudiced by reason of his ignorance, and that consequently the great lever with which to raise all mankind into the sunshine of philosophy, is intelligence.

20 Opinion(s):

Anonymous said...

Whether the Jews are kind or not, I do not care. I know that they control the media though. This you can also find out for yourself. All it takes is to do a little bit or research.

Once you do this, you'll see that the mass media today is totally controlled by the Jews. Thus it is logical to think that stories being focussed on, or ignored by the mass media, has a Jewish agenda.

So whether they are kind people or not is not a question I have for them. What I would like to ask them is why they ignore the thousands of stories of black on white racism and prefer to focus on the handful of stories of white on black racism.

It is almost as if they do not like whites.

Viking said...

Anon says:

"Interesting anti-Christian post. Perhaps some factual numbers would have substantiated Ingersoll's claims, especially the claim that Christians have more blood on their hands than all other religions combined, I'd say that it would be more accurate that atheist leaders earn that reputation. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Meng-istu, and Kim Il-Sung, 6 atheist leaders responsible for over 140 million deaths in the span of around 80 years."

I agree completely, anon.

I would be interested to know whether Ingersoll had encountered any culture other than Christians or Jews, and it would seem that his words were seriously obsolete after the events of the 20th century - when we saw what bloodshed really means.

eduard said...

Ingersoll was an agnostic and a humanist. He was a Republican and thus a politician. He was obviously caught up in the web of deceit of the NWO. I would rather take note of the speeches of Benjamin Freedman than of this clown. An interesting read is the book "Pawns in the Game" by William Guy Carr.

cohen said...

If you think any Jews would align themselves with this inane blog you are very much mistaken.

Exzanian said...

Ingersoll would have been US President. His constituents begged him to drop his open agnosticism, maybe join the Universist church, and run for President. He was a genius, but unfortunately, he stuck to his principles, which were to demolish superstition and orthodox religion and continued the fight to his dying day. He was extremely popular but faded into obscurity soon after his death. The religious of course, rejoiced after his passing.

Anyway, the point of the post is to reveal the root of anti semitism, which lies in the accusation that the jews "murdered" Christ...

FishEagle said...

Exzanian, I wonder how much of Jewish persecution is due to the fact that the Jews flourished, for whatever reason (intelligence, culture, etc) despite their persecution. The fact that that the Jews murdered Christ and envy have both contributed to the Jews' persecution.

Thanks for posting this.

Viking said...

@FishEagle

"The fact that that the Jews murdered Christ and envy have both contributed to the Jews' persecution."

is that tongue-in-cheek?

If not, remember it was the Romans who murdered Jesus...

VI said...

@Cohen. You don't speak for Jews, and this site isn't about Jews, or our favouring them. You must be in the left tail of your groups bell curve anyway.

The purpose of our discussing Jews, is to attempt to explain why a particular group stands out; and it has nothing to do with your ridiculous Jewish religion, which like all religions are more the problem than the solution. It has more to do with heritable characteristics.

Islandshark said...

@ Viking - true about the Romans, but the Jews chose to have a murderer set free and Jesus crucified!

Exzanian said...

Thanks FE - I am not apologetic for the swipes that I take at Christianity (or any religion) from time to time - Two things irritate me more than anything else 1) black people who play the "race card" 2) Religious people who play the "automatic respect" card. Both are an attempt to provide immunity from criticism. Both however, are freely open to be criticised. I regard ILSA as the ultimate platform for expressing freethought; criticising the establishment, shooting down holy cows, nepotism, corruption and hypocrisy of all kinds.

Exzanian said...

Yes Island shark - Matthew 27 v 24 to 25: When Pilate saw that he could not prevail (against the jewish mob) but rather that a tumult was beginning, he took water and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, "I am innocent of the blood of this just person. See ye to it." Then answered all the people and said, "His blood be on us, and on our children!

So there you have it. The root of anti semitism. I'm not defending the jews, I'm not a jew lover, I want people to think about what caused this hatred to bloom into Auschwitz.

VI said...

@ExZ. That's assuming "the book" is factual, and not the figment of someone's imagination. Besides, we know where the hatred comes from.

Modern man has been around for 50,000 odd years. The biblical version is 2,000 odd years old. Jews had already evolved into a group with an above average IQ; certainly long before "Jesus", and definitely before they even knew they were Jews. In fact the Jews probably invented religion.

Exzanian said...

...yes, yes of course. But that infamous verse was interpreted in the worst possible way. Of course, it may not even have happened (doubts on historicity of Jesus Christ which I won't go into here) and yes, the Jews "invented" monotheism ...

Anonymous said...

What's the biggest problem for an atheist?
No one to talk to during an orgasm...

Islandshark said...

Hey watch it you lot! I'm a Jew and also an Afrikaner. I'm a member of the Boeremag and card-carrying member of ACLU.

I'm also a member of Mrs Jones Wednesday afternoon scone baking club - but please don't tell everybody. I have already been exposed today...

Exzanian said...

Heck IS, you're probably black too ;)

FishEagle said...

LOL!!

Viking said...

Yes, the new testament text is somewhat, er, biased towards the Romans in that respect, like how Pilate really REALLY wants to let Jesus go free but those pesky Joos just won't have it...!

I think the gospel of John is also skewed against "the Jews" for the murder of Jesus, but all the pro-Roman propaganda only exists for the same reason that pro-Persian propaganda runs through parts of the old Testament (i.e Cyrus the Great is referred to as 'the Messiah') : they were in charge while it was being written!

trey cruz said...

What a joke.
One minor problem:
Ingersoll was a lifelong,committed Freemason.
Do the math.
If you did your homework you wouldn't publish this kind of laughable shite.
Now I understand why South Africa is falling through it's own arsehole:
The blacks are dumb as stumps and the Whites are dumber than the blacks.

Exzanian said...

Anon 17 February 2010 18:57
Hee-hee I don't respond to faux comments from a faux profile. Fuck off....