Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Climate change brings hope or futility?

The sooner the human population numbers come down the better and it's going to happen with sacrifices from everyone. Some of us will even have to sacrifice our lives and some already have. But in a sick way the things that are happening in South Africa gives me comfort because it is a sign of things to come on the global scale.

There are too many people in this world. We know that 30 - 40 % can't continue to exist according to the rough calculations made by ecologists when they determined the earth's carrying capacity for people. Most of the population growth is projected to take place in the developing world, yet the African continent is largely dependent on aid and the drive for aid to developing countries continue with global warming politics. The logic is beyond insane.

The question now becomes when the First World is going to be forced to face the limitations of our environment. At least their immigration problems have sped up an awakening. The abuse of Christianity and the belief that people may use God for a political agenda is being corrected by a new awareness of the immigrant's predominantly Islamic beliefs. That's the first step to regain reasoning, which will also lead to another step, which is an end to the academics' withdrawal into that fuzzy la-la-land that only exists in the present and which has excluded the majority from the benefits of their research.

Whether the white race is really so helpless and down trodden is something that I'm not convinced about. I think the white race is the most ruthless on earth. We've experienced that ruthlessness first hand as white South Africans. We've been sacrificed for the greater good of our race. When the world wakes up to the crisis of over population the whites will be fast to act. But at this stage, for most in the First World global warming is still only about arriving at a social event driving a funky, energy saving, little car that looks hip. They are so in denial!

18 Opinion(s):

Anonymous said...

Pollution is real, climate change also, global warming isn't.

Catch a wake up.

Anonymous said...

Pollution is real, climate change also, global warming isn't.

Catch a wake up.

FishEagle said...

Anon, hope or futility? I really don't give a rat's ass about your understanding of global warming, climate change or pollution.

auto527832 said...

It´s a poor article that displays the author´s lack of understanding (not to mention his/her lack of good manners when replying to criticism). On the social planning front, nothing happens by accident on this earth. It´s a carefully orchestrated plan to bring about world domination.
As the other anon said, catch a wakeup.

Anonymous said...

Black anonymous

@fisheagle
FUTILITY is what I see. There are just too many competing interests. you know sometimes even when you tell someone their head is on fire they still will not believe it. People are looking at the recent email scandal and winter bursts in europe and the US and think everything is OK. First just to explain what is at stake.

There is already a lot of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, however, what keeps top world gov. awake at night is the nightmare scenario should the North Pole and Siberia (Permafrost melt). You see these two areas contain so much METHANE frozen over by the ice. Should it be released (methane is over 30x more deadly than CO2), we will be joining Venus sooner than we imagined.

Getting back to my point about competing interests:
1). the BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) are not going to back down on cheap fossil fueled growth. It's not becoz they just want to pollute, but becoz the current clean alternatives do not offer much incentive in terms of jobs. (China - 1.3b, India 1.2b, Brazil - 200m, Russia - 140m) Their combined populations are almost 40% of the entire world. India and China are at much greater stress and cannot afford to let growth slide below 7%p.a or they are in trouble - social unrest, etc. (China has over 70 000 demonstrations every year but we see very few due to heavy censorship).

2). The other reason is bcoz the BRICs feel they should not be made to pay for what the west did for over 100yrs.

3). The BRICs feel entitled through their hard work to catch up with the lifestyles in the west. If every country on earth wanted to live like americans (resource and energy use), we would need 3 Earths to do it.

4). As the arctic melts, what are the northern Governments doing? Mobilizing to help stem the tide? NO. Instead there is a looming fight between USA, Russia, Canada, & Denmark over Arctic oil rights. I think you remember last year Russia planting a flag on the arctic sea bed.

Sorry fisheagle, but Humans dont want to learn. It seems we only change when we have no choice. Like one wise climatologist said, "If we fail to make a contract with mother nature and help clean up and restore the planet, Mother nature will force one on us that we may not like."

We humans seem to think that since we are now at the top of the food chain (the last 200 000yrs), suddenly natural and cosmic laws do not apply to us. i.e the Earth wont react to our pollution, or meteors and asteroids will make considerations to bypass earth on their journeys around galaxies. Solar flares will just go the other way, cosmic radiation from the galactic center will just choose a detour when it arrives near earth - PLLEEASSE. Anyway dont fret, these are just far-fetched examples, yet still true.

Not being pessimistic, but to me, its all FUTILITY. I dont see any concrete evidence of real change.

check this video out of the garbage the size of Texas in the pacific.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLrVCI4N67M

Exzanian said...

FE, in the end, for humanity, futility. For earth, a mere blip. Malthus and Darwin will be vindicated. Why are you not taking a geological view here? Think BILLIONS of years.

FishEagle said...

@Auto, "On the social planning front, nothing happens by accident on this earth. It´s a carefully orchestrated plan to bring about world domination."

I actually agree with everything in that comment. I wouldn't call it world domination though. It's just old fashioned survival.

As for good manners or understanding, f*ck you very much.

FishEagle said...

Exzanian, why go for futility when there is hope, regardless of the time scale?

Exzanian said...

FE, I don't "choose" futility. The natural order of the universe makes it clear. I know you are well acquainted with evolution, so why do you not factor that into the bigger picture? A thousand years, or even a hundred thousand is nothing (a blip) on the cosmic timescale.

FishEagle said...

Exzanian, we hope that we don't die before we see the end of mankind but no one will ever know beforehand when that will happen. In the meantime, climate change, South African race issues and the Islamic threat, etc. are immediate problems that impact our lives. The question that was raised, was whether you would choose hope or futility in your approach to resolve these problems.

FishEagle said...

I need to correct my last comment. I meant to say, "we hope that we die before we see the end of mankind." It doesn't really change anything about my last comment though.

Anonymous said...

Climate will always change, regardless of man being here or not, the ice ages and medieval warming period is proof of that. So please don't try to make out as if we have any doing in climate change as that is a very vain assumption.

As for the so-called Global Warming, we all know the chickens came home to roost on that one with all the Global Cooling Deniers' manipulation of the real facts which came out in the past few months.

So I give it another 5-10 years when the same bunch will be chasing down government funds for their "research" into Global Cooling/Drying/Wetting/whatever...

FishEagle said...

@ Black anon. Haha. Thanks, you gave me a good laugh. On a serious note, the developed world is unable to use their expertise to resolve climate change challenges when politicians are pouring the funding into developing countries to pay for reparations.

True, that is an elment of utter futility to it all. But I don't think people understand where all of these developements are coming from because when you understand that you see that things are actually changing at a hell of a fast pace, on a historic time scale.

Everything is connected - Dark Ages, Enlightenment, secularism, evolution, egalitarianism (including democracy & communism), multiculturlism, socialism, capatilsm, World Wars & Jewish Holocaust, Apartheid, and finally, climate change. We can connect the dots and it all resolves around the balance between faith and reasoning, or alternatively the "left" and "right."

Connect the dots and you will discover hope.

FishEagle said...

Anon 13.37. "...don't try to make out as if we have any doing in climate change as that is a very vain assumption."

It's only a vain assumption if you value quantity. I don't. I value quality of people, not their quantity.

Anonymous said...

Racism, sexism, feminism, secularism, egalitarianism, communism, Marxism, multiculturalism, socialism, Capatilsm,

I lot of ism's wouldn't you agree?

Almost as if a specific group of people thought up all these (Ism) words. Almost as if they thought that putting an ism on the end of a word will give it a deeper meaning.

Well actually they were right, who can stand against a charge levelled at them, that ends in an ism.

Anonymous said...

Climate change in meltdown.
Watch the news footage.
They want to charge Al Gore with fraud.
http://cofcc.org/2010/02/
americas-most-famous-weatherman-
says-al-gore-should-be-sued-for-
fraud/

Anonymous said...

Black anonymous
Fish eagle@16:46

Either you are the most optimistic person I have ever met, or you got to give me whatever it is you are smoking. After everything you see in this world (Examples of Historical connections you gave), you have to admit humanity seems to be stuck in this rut of cyclic evolution/devolution. We start small, grow, get arrogant, die out, then start again - Basically like bacteria (Lag, log, plateau and finaly decline phase). The reason I am more pessimistic this time is that never in history has humanity acquired the means to completely destroy every living thing on the planet. And sorry to say that in the history of humanity, there is no weapon that has ever been created and never been used - where do you think WMD will go?

The little hope I have, I use it to agree with Exzania@05:36, that at least on geological time, humans will be a tiny bleep on earths geological time scale, and next time mother nature decides to create another dominant species, she will be more careful. BUT EARTH WILL STILL LIVE - Just not for us.

FishEagle said...

Black anon, I find that my optimism is correlated with understanding. I never used to be this optimistic about global politics or the future of mankind. My optimism is not just about surviving a bad situation though. It's more about how I go into it.