Thursday, August 20, 2009

Is it a she or a he?

Here we go again, right on cue, out comes the old race card. These tests are rare but not unusual, a formality but obviously very embarrassing for the athlete who, in this case, to her/ his credit is taking the scrutiny in her/ his stride (pun unintended). The last athlete tested was a Sri Lankan athlete in the 2006 Asian Games who turned out to be male and subsequently tried to commit suicide.

What do you think?


South African unions and political organisations have criticised the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) following controversy around athlete Caster Semenya's gender verification test.

Semenya's presence at the World Athletics Championship resulted in a request for a gender verification test by the IAAF. The scrutiny increased after she won the women's 800m on Wednesday.

"This smacks of racism of the highest order. It represents a mentality of conforming feminine outlook within the white race," the Young Communist League said in a statement. [...!!!...]

"The [Venus and Serena] Williams sisters were never subjected to such public humiliation as is done by the international athletic body. Is it because they are of American descent?" read the statement.
[kinda blows the "racism" angle out the water..]

Also adding its voice to the criticism was the SA Football Players Union (SAFPU).

"We are disappointed and we condemn the inconsistency of IAAF for conducting physical tests and genital screening on Semenya [a] few hours before the final," SAFPU said in a statement.

"It shows that these imperialist countries can't afford to accept the talent that Africa as a continent has. [again, wtf...?!!! Imperialist ...?!!]

"The athletics federation must not allow to be used [sic] by countries like Australia to push their racist agenda against South Africa," read the statement.

SAFPU has singled out Australia for criticism because they claim the country has been "anti-South Africa" after Fifa awarded the 2010 World Cup to South Africa. [and apples are pears are roses are boats therefore....? talk about connecting unrelated issues]

The Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu) also criticised the IAAF while praising Semenya.

"Your country is very proud of your historic achievement, all the more remarkable given that you come from a poor rural community in Limpopo with few facilities for sport," said Cosatu in a statement.

"Cosatu rejects with contempt the attempts by those who tried to undermine her success by raising bogus and groundless queries about her gender." - Sapa

I guess the proof will be in the, er, pudding. I wonder what will be their reaction should she/he be found to be male.

19 Opinion(s):

Anonymous said...

I have to go with MALE.

Viking said...

I should respectfully stay the HELL out of this one... but I was also listening to a radio talk show yesterday morning on the issue, and several callers played the race card. I was so incensed - why can't they just let it go!
One caller was reminded that the same thing happened to a Polish runner in the 1930s and he just blubbered and hung up.

The reason this story in this particular post is worth commenting on is that the Unions wasted no time in getting in on the act with their shitstirring, but also because this poor girl has probably suffered all her life at the hands of her "own people" for not being feminine enough: Does she conform to BLACK AFRICAN ideals of femininity??? HELL no.

In fact if she's from a poor community, is 18 and not married in this countryis probably evidence of this, together with reports that she had been ridiculed in SA her entire teenage life, including having been jeered by black "men" at a petrol station who stopped her using the ladies' room.

The idea that it's us "imperialists" who are against her is disgusting.

Anonymous said...

I agree Viking, I tried to stay out of it UNTIL the race card was played against us "imperialists" so now it requires a reply. I feel very sorry for the poor athlete but rules are rules and just like drug testing, gender testing is necessary when something looks odd - which this does.

Viking said...

ya, it does a bit!
And it seems like the athletes she beat are the ones that raised the issue - the IAAF have to take that seriously.
I have no problem with black runners being better than white ones - that's something that's been demonstrated for years. Physiologically, they're more suitable for it - it's not a moral issue!

Anonymous said...

Why don't they test this boon for steroids?..

And if found guilty, then blow this shit right out of the water by banning its black ass and showing the commies in sa the finger...

Anonymous said...

Good on her for showing them a clean pair of heels.

Anonymous said...

Definitely male, but the test results will be hushed up because blacks aren't allowed to be portrayed as opportunistic and deceitful.

Anonymous said...

Well, since TWO tests are being done, one in Germany (I think) and one in SA, what happens if they get opposite results? Would you believe the SA result?

Anonymous said...

My call is male. The demeanour, how he/she speaks; licks their lips; walks; even the build and the way he/she runs all adds up to a male. Let's see what happens... I'm such a racist.

Anonymous said...

@ anon 5:45, and don't forget, also an "imperialist".

Exzanian said...

This is a schadenfreude gem - Love to see how incensed the ANC is, how they are squirming in anguish -Smoke fuming out the ears - Now they know how we felt when Decker tripped up Zola Budd -

Anonymous said...

@Exzanian: Er ... it was Budd who tripped up Decker.

Exzanian said...

Dach - Not as clear cut as that:
From an old report

"...The few seconds which destroyed both women's hopes of a medal have been shown on television from every angle in an attempt to decide which athlete was to blame.

They show that shortly after the half-way mark, with Zola Budd slightly in front, she and Mary Decker bumped into each other twice.

In the second encounter, Mary Decker's spikes caught Budd's heel.

Budd was, as usual, running barefoot. Her left leg shot out as she stumbled, tripping Decker.

The American pitched forward and crashed to the floor on the infield grass, clutching her right thigh.

She was unable to get up and was carried from the track in tears, her race over.

Zola Budd carried on, but as she did so, the largely American crowd began booing her from the stands.

Obviously upset, Budd finished well down the field, and Maricica Puica of Romania took the gold..."

The point is that Zola was vilified and hated as a South African because she had obtained a British passport to enable her to compete in the Olympics.
Now the ANC on behalf of Semenya is getting all teary eyed because she has huge biceps and won by such a huge margin that the other athletes (read Mary Decker)are questioning her gender? Zola went through a thousand times worse..

Perhaps I could have inserted the words as "tripped up"

Viking said...

you're right, I was inspired to read a bit about ZB yesterday after the Caster story. How she was treated in Britain was shocking - nothing short of racist and makes me ashamed. She also offered to apologise to the runner that tripped her, but the American just stormed off.

Anonymous said...

OMG! This is so stupid. Blatant cheating!!!

Anonymous said...

My money’s on it being intersex. A genetic anomaly like XXY (Klinerfelter syndrome) or similar. The excuse will then be that they were just trying to “normalise” the poor soul’s life by treating “her” like a normal female and that to do otherwise would be have been unfair and prejudicial to “her”.

See all the intersex possibilities at:


Anonymous said...

She's a girl, period.

Chris said...

I feel bad for her because she probably has been mocked all her life. At least she can be finally do something that she can be proud of. Besides, why are they questioning her gender now after she won. If there was a problem, they should have checked her out discreetly before the race instead of embarrassing her after she won.

Anonymous said...

Hey, read this from the Irish Times. Typical liberal sickening fawning behaviour. Doesn't it make you want to puke? Read the last 3 paragraphs:

Here is the 2nd last para:

Semenya has behaved with incredible class over the past few nights. She deserves manifold apologies and compensation to the tune of millions. Because who is to say that this fortnight, these games, will not ruin her life? Who can tell how all of this will affect her when the world grows bored and moves onto a new fascination? The Berliners, a city whose citizens knows a thing or two about stigmatisation, seem to have taken the South African girl to their hearts.