Saturday, July 11, 2009

Apparently God Hates The World

Nothing is sacrosanct on this site, and we have taken our pot shots at religion from time-to-time. I am adding two videos today, the first is a video called God Hates The World, a Christian production. The second video is Fitna, a documentary by Geert Wilders, about radical Islam. Both videos have a religious backdrop. No further prelude is necessary. Watch and comment for yourselves.




12 Opinion(s):

Exzanian said...

Before anyone comments on this post, please try and remember VI could have entitled it "Apparently Superboy Hates The World"

FishEagle said...

Your hatred of religion is a kind of spirituality, albeit a pretty destructive form. You come across as hating the stupidity of the emotional foundation in religion. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Vanilla Ice said...

...or "Apparently The Super Being Hates The World".

FishEagle said...

Thought you might like to know SABC3 is showing Superman tonight. Will you boy's excuse me. I'm a sucker for super heroes. Lol

Vanilla Ice said...

@FE. Amazing, I have just turned the tellie on and Superman is on, what a coincidence.

FishEagle said...

VI, I LOVE the older movies!

Dachshund said...

Wow those bitter white women in the first video really have the jolly hots for a terrible god destroying the world.

Holland does not seem like a place I would like to visit again soon. How long before these jihadists murder Geert Wilders as well? Pim Fortuijn, Theo van Gogh, it just goes on and on.

I don't agree with Obama's soft, conciliatory line towards Islam. Maybe his attitude will harden when he realises that nothing will come from soft soaping other than more terrorism.

Dachshund said...

There is a tremendous emotional foundation in religion which is played upon and stirred up by fundamentalists. This is not spirituality; it is the very antithesis of spirituality.

Exzanian said...

The emotional foundation in religion is indeed problematic. Because most people use their emotions as a "thinking tool" instead of their brains. Their ability to reason is weaker than their ability to feel. Sure, feeling is part of being human, its part of me too. But for centuries it has been exploited by the ruling priest class. When Copernicus blew the shit out of the earth centered view of the universe, religion retreated only after a hell of a fight, but accepted it in the end. Then Darwin came along and blew some more holes into the view of humans as a special creation by god, and the Church fought it for 150 years, but now accepts it, albeit with miserable mutterings.
Never forget that it is the heretics, the atheists, the free thinkers that have brought the religious (kicking and screaming) to this place, so that Christians in 1264 who would be found baying for the blood of the heretic at the Auto de fe, can now be found in the 21st century sanctimoniously talking about being "Spiritual" and chuckle condescendingly at those "atheist fundamentalists". If it were up to the religious, we would ALL still be stuck in the dark ages. There is nothing spiritual about religion. As an atheist, I am spiritual. I have numinous thoughts and moments every day. They are rooted in the discoveries of science. Ice cold, crystal clear thought. Sometimes my thoughts arrest me in the middle of a conversation with someone else. I am amazed and blown away by the amazing mystery and wonder of this weird, fluke of a universe we live in. The universe IS a miracle, but it's a godless miracle. Here is a brilliant and very eloquent article:
http://adoptanatheist.blogspot.com/2009/01/empty-box-it-has-to-be-said-religion-is.html

FishEagle said...

@Exzanian, "Because most people use their emotions as a "thinking tool" instead of their brains." I agree. Most problems that have been caused by organized religion were because people were being stupid.

"Their ability to reason is weaker than their ability to feel." I don't think they necessarily had a weaker ability to think than to feel though. They had a problem switching between reasoning and feeling, which was required as circumstances changed.

Vanilla Ice said...

I have just watched Fitna again, it is really disturbing. No more so, I guess, than the radical Anti-Abortion videos and others. I truly applaud the likes of Geert Wilders, for having the courage to tell the world what they believe to be an imminent threat.

Viking said...

@Exzanian
"If it were up to the religious, we would ALL still be stuck in the dark ages"
Absolute nonsense, Old Boy!
(I refer the court's attention to South Park episode "Go God Go". As always, fictional characters support my theses).
Christian thinkers were both at the forefront of social change AND at the back, dragging their heels. But that's not really the issue. The world survived pretty well without Atheists for zillions of years, and now they are here they want to blame an abstract concept - "religion" - for all the trouble in the world. If only I had an abstract concept to blame when my car doesn't start!
Religions are many and diverse, there are good ones and bad ones. Good ones tend to adapt and survive, bad ones can't and die out. Just like guns, religions don't kill people - people kill people. We ALL have had to put up with ideologies that prevent us from thinking or accepting new ideas - some of them involve God, some don't. A religion is just an ideology that involves a higher power.
If you equate a religion with the people who control and distort it for their own ends, you buy into their ideology that they are in charge. Don't. Religions belong to all their practitioners, not just the ones in fancy dress.
God made man in His image - and man has returned the favour. Because we HAVE too.
The universe is big. Can you picture a million people in your head? I can't. Think of a big desert, with a million people standing on it. Look down on them from above. You can't, even our minds can't deal with big numbers, let along all the things that are in the universe. So when people choose (although i admit only about 95% of the world's population does, so what do they know?) to view their universe through an anthropomorphic being, let them.
It seems to have worked for a long time.