Friday, February 20, 2009

SA Rugby and the racist Maori team

Duh! Tsk. Why didn't we think of this before? Call it an 'ethnic' team, not a racial team and it is alright then, y'see?

The Maoris are a race but because white guilters and apologists and Maoris themselves call them 'ethnic' (ha ha, gotta love it..!) it is not racial. It is as clear as mud.

So this means the rest of you Kiwis, and us Saffas, we can put together our own 'ethnic' teams, exclude all other races...er, I mean ethnic groups and viola, you have yerself a legitimate team. Easy as pie. Come on. Somebody do it!

Read how they sound dumb, like they hadn't thought of this before, that they didn't realise having a Maori-only team wasn't racial. Pleeez...

Someone commented: Where’s John Minto now? Haven’t noticed him with his merry band of losers picketing Maori Rugby team games or practices, but if he was going to be consistent (fat chance) then he would be kicking up a fuss.

UPDATE:
ANC heroes asked to step in for NZ Maori team Friday, 20 February 2009
Press Release: Progressive Party Wigram MP Jim Anderton is contacting South Africa’s honorary consul in New Zealand, and asking Nelson Mandela to intervene over the refusal of South African rugby to allow a match in Soweto between the Springboks and a New Zealand Maori team. Source

UPDATE: Word is, the Kiwis are saying the Maori team is not racial because it is not a national team. Well, in that case, even better. Form a Boer rugby team and play rugby against international teams if you like, just don't call yourself a national team. Stupid logic but what works for the goose..

SA's Maori stance 'bolt out of the blue'

The New Zealand Rugby Union described South African question marks over the validity of a racially selected New Zealand Maori side playing the Springboks as "a bolt out of the blue" but they are determined to try to see the game go ahead.

Neil Sorensen, the NZRU's general manager of professional rugby, has been working with the South African Rugby Union's acting managing director Andy Marinos on the project since late last year.

The New Zealand Maori side don't have a programme for 2009 and the Springboks are looking for a warm-up match in early June before they start a three-test series against the British & Irish Lions.

What looked like an amicable fixture in Soweto for both sides now seems to be a political hot potato with Saru suddenly questioning the match under the President's Council ruling that prevents their national teams playing racially selected teams.

"Last night's news was a bolt out of the blue," Sorenson said on Thursday, adding that there was "never a hint" of these sorts of problems in their dealings to date.

"They have been excited about the prospect (of the match)."

Sorenson was likely to call Marinos overnight to try to get clarification.

Sorenson accepted that the Maori side was racially based in that "you have to be a Maori to play in it".

But he chose to side with New Zealand race relations commissioner Joris de Bres who in a letter to Saru today said: "I have no problem with the concept of a Maori rugby team, or a European rugby team, or a Chinese rugby team, as long as our national, regional and local representative teams are open to people of all ethnicities. This is ethnic diversity, not racial discrimination."

Asked his thoughts on de Bris' letter, Sorenson said: "I think it's inspirational. We agree with everything."

The NZRU were working to a February deadline to try to have the match settled. They wanted to discuss South African suggestions that it could drag out till the end of March now.

Sorenson said there was a need to bed down logistics at this end.

Short of funds for their national teams this season, the NZRU's decision to put the Maori side on cotton wool wasn't well received when it was announced late last year.

There were hopes the match against the Springboks at a massive 100,000-seater stadium in Soweto could be "cost neutral" with the South Africans picking up the Maori assembly and on-ground expenses in the republic.

Sorenson said the Maori arm of the NZRU were full of encouragement for the match and there was a commitment to try to work through the new problems.

"It will be amazing if we can make it work ... it's daunting but exciting."

Sorenson didn't want to get drawn into the politics of South African rugby when it was raised that South African sides had a racial issue with quotas at some stages since their reinstatemtn to internaitonal rugby in 1992.

"I've only read what has been reported and I don't really want to comment on it. It's a complex issue," he said.

14 Opinion(s):

Mark JS Esslemont said...

In 1981 Kiwis didn't want a Springbok team based on race in NZ,
resulting in riots in NZ, but in 2009 Kiwis want to send a Maori team based on race, or ethnicity to SA. What hypocrisy.

Doberman said...

You have it Mark. And nothing will be done about this blatant racism because you see, it does not involve white 'superiority'. Maori, black, brown superiority is fine but the minute white ethnic groups want their own team, like the Boers for instance, no can do. That's racism. Utter bullshit.

Liezel said...

I also think it is hypocritical that there exists even a Maori team, since whites cannot have an "all white" team. I agree the whole idea of a Maori team is not a good idea. It is a team selected on race. But, and yes I just got to say this... BUT the Springbok team is also selected based on race!! The brown and black players are only there in the Springbok team because their race have to be presented in the national team. Its affirmative action in sport. The Kiwis find it admirable that SA is trying so hard to put apartheid behind it, but this is just ridiculous! What is SA achieving or trying to impress by doing this? Nothing and nobody :)

Anonymous said...

Thanks for agreeing to do a piece on this. Couldn't believe it when I saw they were trying to send a Racist Team to SA!

If it goes ahead, first we protest against it and second we select a Boer Team to New Zealand.

Regards
Common Sense

Raphael said...

The Maori team includes a lot of people that can be classified as white in south Africa. White people with Maori blood. You guys need to see the composition of the team first. Some people are more progressive. they did not have to deal with the National Party (apatheird). Comment after you have see the team .

Raphael said...

The Maori team includes a lot of people that can be classified as white in south Africa. White people with Maori blood. You guys need to see the composition of the team first. Some people are more progressive. they did not have to deal with the National Party (apatheird). Comment after you have see the team .

Raphael said...

The Maori team includes a lot of people that can be classified as white in south Africa. White people with Maori blood. You guys need to see the composition of the team first. Some people are more progressive. they did not have to deal with the National Party (apatheird). Comment after you have see the team .

Raphael said...

The Maori team includes a lot of people that can be classified as white in south Africa. White people with Maori blood. You guys need to see the composition of the team first. Some people are more progressive. they did not have to deal with the National Party (apatheird). Comment after you have see the team .

Doberman said...

@ Raphael, you only need to send it once to get it posted. As for your comment, it's irrelevant to the point being discussed. Did you read the article at all? The team is based solely on RACE, which makes it a RACIST team. There is no getting around that fact. What would you say if white Kiwis ONLY formed a WHITE NEW ZEALAND team and excluded Maoris? That's right, it would be racist and unacceptable.

Why is racism acceptable when non-whites are committing it and not when whites do it? Answer the question. Don't tell me about some white with 1/16th Maori blood blah.. blah.. that would be considered "white in SA".

Is the Maori team a team based on race, yes or no? If yes, why is it being tolerated when New Zealanders stopped race-based teams from touring NZ in the past? It isn't so pleasant when the shoe is on the other foot and the hypocrisy is exposed is it?

Anonymous said...

What the fuck is wrong with you people? It's quite hilarious to see you cunts fail to differentiate between racial discrimination and the celebration of a culture. The NZ Maori team is a celebration of Maori-dom. What a bunch of defensive fuckwits.

FishEagle said...

@Anonymous 04:08. There is nothing wrong with celebrating a culture. I just don’t have time to celebrate another culture after I’ve been told I can’t celebrate my own. You won’t see people so defensive if you didn’t use such offensive language.

Doberman said...

@ anon 4:08, what the fuck is wrong with you? Are you too young to remember the NZ opposition to whites only rugby teams? If that was unacceptable because only whites were allowed to play rugby for the national team, why then is it different for Maoris only (WHICH ARE A RACE FUCKWIT!!) to represent NZ on a national level? How about equal treatment? Or is that asking too much from a shit-for-brains like you to comprehend the hypocrisy?!!!

Liezel said...

"The NZ Maori team is a celebration of Maori-dom"

Yeah, Black Power, Mongrel Mob and the Nomads gangs are celebrations of Maori-dom too... ;-)

Kiwis were very fast to point fingers to SA and apartheid. But some can whinge about the darkies that would make an AWB member blush! It's like a continues never ending "sorry" that white New Zealand has to say to the Maori. This form the essence of the Labour and Green party. Thank goodness we're back to National.

If there is a Maori rugy team, a Pakeha rugby team should be alowed too. The thing is, there seem to be no need for it, because the All Blacks are the main focus for all. But if there was, I doubt it would have been alowed, because that is way too scary. It would be racist and a threat to society and hoo and haa, we must be Nazi's, the end is nither!!.... Typical Kiwi reaction.

Conclusion: A white only rugby team is a greater threat to society than a Maori extremist gang.

Anonymous said...

cmon even if you made a new zealand pakeha (white) team they would suck

maori would waste them easy