You have to see this video. The South Africa I knew. Observe the clean streets, the hustle and bustle of people with a purpose, jobs, places to go, blacks and whites living harmoniously, no high walls, no electrified fencing, no street hawkers. No decay, no grime. Notice the lack of any animosity between the races.
And then see the South Africa of the 2000s, more pictures viewable at The Death of Johannesburg.
I am prepared to bet my last dollar that given the choices between what was and what is, that even blacks today would prefer life before the ANC calamity befell the country.
You see, foreign liberal fucks reading this that participated in the so-called 'liberation' of South Africa into the shithole that it is today, this video is the image of South Africa your media and governments did NOT want you to see. What you got to see was blacks rioting, tyres and buildings burning and 'evil' white police shooting at poor defenceless blacks.
And then we have today's 'utopia'...
The Inconvenient Suffering of China’s Laogai Prisoners
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Over at Commentary, Jonathan Tobin notes that the New York Times finally published
a story about woman in Oregon finding a note inside some Halloween...
36 minutes ago
23 Opinion(s):
Yep, back to the stone age we go
I know that there are left wing liberals that read this blog. I have no wish to get into a bun fight, but in another article that I have just read, in which Tutu was interviewed, the journilist made this statement: ***the full disclosure he (Tutu, the truth commission) recommended would go at least some way towards healing a country ripped apart by gross human rights violations***.
Could someone please tell me what the "gross human rights violations" were. I am not trying to start an argument, I really do not know. Whoever answers, please note that the statement was "gross human rights violations", and Tutu at one stage said that apartheid was worse that the holocaust.
Hey Grumble,
the "Gross Human Rights Violations" centered around the fact that all the separate Nations of SA had their own countries, thereby putting THEIR interests ahead of the "money-men" in London and NYC, the Rights Violations were therefore against the World's wealthiest families, who believe they deserve ALL of the world's wealth and power at the expense of the Nations of the world!
Simple as that!
Regards,
Common Sense
ps. also their reason for fabricating the history of the social anthropology of Southern Africa as seen on non-sensical websites like SA History and other ANC websites
I wouldn’t put too much value to what Tutu says. This is the same Tutu that threatened to withdraw his vote, like an immature child that doesn’t get his way, when some of the ANC’s dirty tactics were exposed. He’s just another one of the world media’s “straw man” creations.
However, there were human rights violations during the apartheid era. People that were seen as a threat to apartheid laws died in prison at the hands of the police without trial. You can bet your bottom dollar if I was black I would have been an activist. I could have been one of those people that died. That was wrong.
But if I could chose between the apartheid evils and the evils of the ANC government I’d choose apartheid. It always comes down to the same thing. We have to choose the lesser of the two evils.
To Grumbleguts.
I have been recording data from sources as and when they become available. When we talk of GROSS human rights violations, this has to be in excess of mere seperate development or being denied the vote. Here is a collection of data for you to peruse. You go figure it it was gross or not.
During Apartheid:
1. 1,804 SADF personnel killed between 1966 - 1989.
2. SADF kills 19,844 1966 - 1989.
3. SAP (Koevoet) personnel killed 154.
4. SAP (Koevoet) kills 3,861.
The above were largely against the Communist threat and had nothing to do with Apartheid.
1. Sharpeville 69 people killed in 1960.
2. Soweto 575 people killed in 1976, which includes necklaces and rampant acts of violence, not just SAP actions.
Post Apartheid:
1. 3,000 white farmers murdered since 1994.
2. 35,000 whites murdered since 1994.
3. Over 300,000 people murdered since 1994.
4. 67,000 babies raped per year.
5. 1 rape every 17 seconds.
6. Your daughter has a greater probability of being raped than learning to read.
I am on the look out for any other stats that readers may have. Example, how many deaths were caused to the indigenous populations by marauding terrorists. How many deaths were caused to urban South Africans as a result of terrorist actions e.g bomb blasts etc.
Hi Anon
Thanks for the great input.
Not so anon, just wasn't logged in. I did some more number crunching. Here I had to use a bit more poetic license based on internet sources and calculations.
1. 1,919 deaths per million vehicles. Compare this to Canada at 12.79 deaths per million vehicles. You are 150 times more likely to die in a vehicle related incident than in Canada, for example.
2. There is 1 death for every 25.79 mini-taxi.
3. There is 1 death for every 35.12 buses.
4. There is 1 death for every 250.73 motorcycles.
5. There is 1 death for every 3,222 motorcar, LDV and other.
6. Mini-taxis account for 10,081 deaths per annum or 71% of all road related deaths, but only make up 3.51% of all vehicles.
7. You are 125 times moe likely to die in a mini-taxi than a motorcar.
I should construct a blog on this.
In response to Stupid:
"People that were seen as a threat to apartheid laws died in prison at the hands of the police without trial."
How do you come to this conclusion? Are you using Steve Biko as "proof" and thereby establishing a causal link?
I happened to have been a Policeman in the 80's and had a stint as a prison guard for the security branch. I can assure you that political prisoners received better food and treatment than the usual rank and file, including medical attention. Never once did a prisoner die or even appeared to have been tortured. This is not to say that it did not happen, simply that it was not as widespread as common mythology will have you believe.
@ anon 8:21..
If you could send me the stats with source references, I would be very grateful. It's the kind of TRUTH the world needs to hear. It is never to late to put the facts out there.
Gross human rights violations are on the scale of the Rwanda genocide, or the Bosnian racial war. The Human Rights Commission said that about 438 people died due to the direct cause of the Government of the day, the NP. Now, one is too many, but 438 in 40 years??? The rest died because of township violence, black on black stuff. There was also the pass laws, and the Group Areas. No doubt there were other laws and by-laws, but to class these things as GROSS human rights violations, is not true. What has happened is that the Western world look at the apartheid time as a time when the whites ran amok!! One of the builders here in the UK asked me once if it was true that during the time of apartheid, the white people were allowed to drive around and shoot the blacks. It's the mis-information that these peeople have been fed. Eeben Barlow sums it up EXACTLY on his blog. As for "Save the Whales" Tutu, he gets first prize for being dumb. He was asked if he would be voting for COPE in the next election. Never, he said. Which means that the honourable gentleman will be putting his X in the ANC block. Nuff sed.
Anonymous 09:29. I don’t doubt for one second that the media has brainwashed the general public into believing all sorts of hogwash about apartheid. But if apartheid was such a perfect system why did it fall? The apartheid government made mistakes, giving the west ammunition to destroy us. People died in jails without trial and one was too many. Not even to mention the shooting and killing of school children??? Come on!!!! If you have learned nothing from the mistakes of the past, then you deserve to suffer this slippery slide into hell that we are experiencing right now.
Stupid asked: "But if apartheid was such a perfect system why did it fall?"
Hi Stupid, thanks for acknowledging what most sheeple won't, but fear not, you need not be "stupid" for long, just make sure you understand what you are taught by those who are enlightened.
Your 1st lesson is the answer to your question above:
"Apartheid" fell, because it was in the interests of the people of Southern Africa, and NOT in the interests of the owners of the 'Bank of England' and the 'Federal Reserve', while the ANC-run South Africa is!
Kind Regards,
Common Sense
Common sense, you have used a straw man argument. “….and NOT in the interests of the owners of the 'Bank of England' and the 'Federal Reserve'” is your statement and not mine.
"Apartheid" fell, because it was in the interests of the people of Southern Africa………while the ANC-run South Africa is!
That statement is purely political and not even based on principle. For that matter I don’t give a damn if you support the AWB, DA, UDM, or whatever party. My advice is to go and recruit ANC supporters somewhere else because I don’t think you will have much success here.
Common sense, your “sense” is maybe a little too common.
Is the DA unwilling to do anything or are they hindered by ANC central government´s laws and regulations?
I understand that the local control of the cities and regions in SA isn´t so much as so much of the responsibility for all matters of life is in the hands of the central government or jointly, am I right?
If it is true what it states about the plots given to 500 hundred families and thus about 2500 people, can´t they just enforce those rights as property rights?
If they don´t have legal titles to the land, find the original squatters receiving the right to settle there (maybe confiscate the share of those that are not found), give them the right and duty to make illegal settlers on their property (or land lease contracted land) leave, put in a local police force and methods similar to the US surge in Iraq, and hinder those that run away to settle anywhere within the confines of said local governments land or private property within it.
That is at least what I would think was the sane thing to do, but of course I confess not to understand the local situation, the laws and rights, and how big such an operation would have to be. But imagine if it was pursued to the fullest, how much more easier all subsequent similar operations would be. It is the broken windows syndrome once again.
Best wishes,
Leifur
Look like Anon 5:11 is wide awake & knows what's really going on as there was a somewhat hidden agenda on the part of the financial power.
Hum, this was not the post I posted here, it seems to have disapeared, maybe it wasn´t sent properly. Best wishes,
Leifur
Speaking of disappearing posts: the two posts of articles about the killing of an American television reporter written by Illana Mercer are GONE! This is of particular interest to me as I was debating Frank Talk & debunking his assertions where I posted about 4 links to information on the White slaves in early America & Europe. What happened to those articles? Were they deleted on purpose or is THIS site also getting hacked as well? This is troubling regardless.
@ Ron, never fear, this site wasn't hacked. And besides it is fully backed up. Regrettably Ms Mercer took issue with us posting her two articles and I respected her wishes. The reason she stated was that we hadn't accorded her the proper accreditation in the format she preferred (embedding under the title was not enough) and thus I decided to avoid the matter altogether. Ms Mercer was graceful in her request.
I should have guessed. I was thinking this as well but I placed it near the bottom of possibilities at the time. I have a helpful suggestion. When posting others peoples articles: just place the name of the author under the title. That should be enough to accord the authors proper accreditation. When I cut & paste text in order to provide relevant quotes: I place the name of the author at the end & often with a link to the source. I think if you adopted a method which made it much clearer about who the author of articles were then they would have less of a problem with it being posted.
You are quite right Ron, unfortunately I overlooked that part and she took a little umbrage (legitimately) at her details not being mentioned although we do embed all sources where we can. It is a question of time, being rushed sometimes, but no matter.
We, on the other hand don't care who copies our stuff, we see many of our unique pics and odd articles everywhere and we are quite happy for people to use them without referring to us. We are not in it for the money whereas others are so we have to respect that.
Hello Ron, would you contact me directly on my email address: dobermansa@gmail.com? Thanks
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